Siddh Bhagwaan Amurtik Kaise hai

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Siddh bhagwaan amurtik hai

But then why we say

  1. either they are sitting or they are standing
  2. unka size kuch kam ho jaata hai arihant avastha se.

My questions:

  1. Shape and size will only be of murtik. But aatma is amurtik. How?
  2. Also since Aatma is amurtik how come it can be seen by anbody? Even by arihant bhagwan.

Since I am new to shastars if possible please explain in simple terms.

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प्रत्येक द्रव्य में अनेक सामान्य गुण होते है।सामान्य अर्थात ये गुण सभी द्रव्य में नियम से पाए जाते है।
उनमें 6 मुख्य गुण है।

अस्तित्व गुण,वस्तुत्व गुण,द्रव्यत्व गुण, प्रमेयत्व गुण,अगुरुलघुत्व गुण,प्रदेशत्व गुण

इसमें जिस शक्ति के कारण द्रव्य का कोई न कोई आकार अवश्य होता है उसे प्रदेशत्व गुण कहते है।

इसे logic से भी विचार करे यदि कोई द्रव्य के प्रदेश है तो उस प्रदेश के माध्यम से उसका आकार अवश्य ही कुछ ना कुछ तो होगा ही।

रही बात मूर्तिक की तो = मुर्तिक अर्थात जो पदार्थ इंद्रिय द्वारा ग्राह्य हो जिसमे स्पर्श,रस,गंध,वर्ण पाया जाता है उसे मूर्तिक कहते है।
जैसे चक्षु इंद्रिय से ख्याल में आता है अर्थात उसका वर्ण गुण अवश्य होगा ही होगा। और एक गुण है तो नियम से अन्य भी होंगे।

हालाकि सूक्ष्म परमाणु आदि इंद्रिय ग्राहय नही है परंतु उसकी स्कंध रूप अवस्था अवश्य ख्याल में आती है उसी तरह समझना।

इस तरह सिद्ध भगवान में आकार तो है परंतु इंद्रिय ग्राहय और स्पर्श आदि गुण से रहित है इसीलिए अमूर्तिक है।

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Thank you for the answer.

Bu I am asking can Siddh bhagwan be seen by anybody?

As we are telling a lot about them like

  1. they are position( they are standing or sitting).
  2. in 1 siddh bhagwan many reside…

There must be someone who has seen it. Or someone who has experienced it telling that.

Even about Siddhshila

  1. ananat bhagwan are residing there
  2. nigodiya jeeva are there.
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Since we utilize five senses to acquire knowledge, we have come to believe that knowledge can be attained only through them. But we’ve numerous examples to disprove this belief.

Knowledge is the attribute of soul and it doesn’t require any help of senses to know. But this happens completely only when one becomes Arihant or Siddha. So, yes, Arihant bhagwan through his divyadhwani has told us that Siddha reside on Siddhshila. He has also told us their position whether they have attained Nirvana through Khadgasan or Padmasan. He has told that infinite Siddhas reside together along with infinite Nigodiyas on Siddhshila.

The basis of every belief or principle of Jainism is Jinvani i.e Divyadhwani of Arihant. So, one must have belief in him to believe anything else further.

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Senses see/understand/view only Murtik because that kind of Kshayopsham, but Knowledge see/view Murtik/Amurtik because that kind of Kshay is there. I mean what can be seen through eyes is the limitation of eyes, but this is not limitation of Knowledge/Gyan.